Dark-Chibi-Shadow, January 26th, 2017, 7:14 pm (Reply)

A reminder that, even though apologizing can be hard; it can be the first step to a lot of good things.

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Big Curl (Guest), January 26th, 2017, 7:32 pm (Reply)

this blessed page, this blessed alkaline nod, thank god. your friendship awaits, boys

Nyeh (Guest), January 27th, 2017, 9:49 am (Reply)

Ugh I still hate this whole deal here! He never had friends so why be such bitches and say he can't be himself? It's absolutely adorable how straightforward he used to be and now their just shutting him up :( :( :(

dare4distance, January 27th, 2017, 1:03 pm (Reply)

@Nyeh: i think that it's more like, positive development rather than him being unable to be himself? like, i don't think i'd wanna be friends with him before this development, he just kind of harassed people and made things awkward. i don't think trying to improve yourself means not being yourself, i think it just means growing up!

also, just because he never had friends, it doesn't really excuse anything he's done? i think if anything, he's finally learning how to be a friend now that he has some who are willing to show him what it means to be decent and respectful! i understand what you mean, but he wasn't really straightforward, just kinda... inappropriate.

Dark-Chibi-Shadow, January 27th, 2017, 6:18 pm (Reply)

@Nyeh: What dare4distance said is pretty spot on-- plus, who says he won't still be the same old Zeggy?
'U' I wouldn't put off this development so quicky, if I were you!
(Also, let's keep in mind Joe doesn't really know what happened to Zeggy as a kid!)

Nyeh (Guest), January 28th, 2017, 1:18 am (Reply)

Well I'm sorry you guys can't understand anything, I literally see nothin wrong with being "inappropriate" because that is how I am irl. I just don't see what's so wrong with it, I mean sure people don't like me being me and even say it aloud all of the time but I don't let it change me. If someone can't let it be then their friendship is not worth it, might as well leave if you can't be yourself around em. I'm sure you guys have never been socially pushed away from others because of this so I understand your way of thinking but you should be open to all sorts of people, and remember that redhead didn't like having to put up with Zeggy! So now Zeggy has to put up with not being himself? That is cruel and selfish and absentminded.
@dare4distance @Dark-Chibi-Shadow

Dark-Chibi-Shadow, January 28th, 2017, 2:07 am (Reply)

@Nyeh: Funny enough, Zeggy is based my experiences and actions as a teenager-- and I'm much happier now that I don't objectify people and understand people more like Alkaline. It frustrates me to have you assume that I don't identify deeply with my main character, whom I've had for years and who means so much to me as a person.
This comic isn't made to make people who relate with Zeggy feel bad, and I really hope you can wait to see where the comic is going in the future. Alkaline has his own problems, and being honest with Zeggy in this chapter was a huge step for him.
The whole idea behind this comic is Zeggy going from being a jerk and a lair with a lack of understanding to someone who is able to be more empathetic.
As the comic goes on, Zeggy is still as loud and as perverted as ever (as a lot of my side content will tell you) but is able to actually have a real connection with people.
Zeggy at the start of the comic wasn't a happy person. He had no real relationships in his life, and he was purposefully (and purposefully) hurting people around him.
Forgive me for not being well spoken, but I'm just hoping that my reply will give you any sort of clarification.

dare4distance, January 29th, 2017, 10:36 pm (Reply)

@Nyeh: cool! it's understandable to feel upset because maybe you empathize with zeggy, but that still doesn't excuse that he definitely has hurt people? people should change for the better, and it doesn't mean not being yourself, it just means being more selfless! he still has flaws, and his friends are allowing him to be himself and have flaws. but no one should have to tolerate objectification or anything like that. like, for example, i was once a child, and i was obnoxious and loud and inconsiderate. that made it harder for me to connect with people, but as i've grown, i'm still me. i'm not anyone else, and i prefer myself this way! just because maybe you're upset that being inappropriate or objectifying someone is being portrayed as negative, it doesn't mean that its *not* negative, and not something someone should work on!

(also i find it a little strange that you want to tell the author themselves that they don't understand their own character? people should develop, not stagnate, that makes you just grow into a really childish adult, y'know?)

PuggleMan (Guest), February 1st, 2017, 4:49 am (Reply)

@Nyeh: It's not that Zeggy is turning away from or suppressing himself. It's more like he's realizing that he can say stupid stuff, but not be a total jerk about it. Hurting people around him and just messing around are two totally different things.

At the same time, I don't want a friend who won't tell me they have problems with me. A friend will tell you what you want to hear, but a true friend will tell you what you DON'T want to hear. True friends care about you in a way that they want you to improve upon yourself. They want you to be yourself. They want you to be the best you that you can be, and sometimes, this means changing the way you treat others. Can he still be inappropriate? Of course! He just needs to not harass people.

Another point to consider: You cannot be liked by everyone. Zeggy is the same way, I am the same way, Dark-Chibi-Shadow is the same way. Also, most people are shallow anyway. It's true that only what you think of yourself matters, but if you want to keep your friends, like Zeggy does, you'll treat them more the way you would want people to treat you; with respect.

This post is all over the place, but the point is: Be yourself, but be respectful to the people you care about. Call you friends mean names, threaten them all you want, but also treat them with decency. Go outside of who you are from time to time just to let them know that you care about them, then punch them in the arm and tell them that if they tell anyone, you will murder them.

Guest, January 21st, 2019, 11:02 am (Reply)

I thought joe was kinda jealous at first

Dark-Chibi-Shadow, January 21st, 2019, 2:19 pm (Reply)

@Guest: are you the person who also thought alkaline was jealous of toggy?
seems like ur real caught up on jealousy stuff haha

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